Houses of Healing OOC (planning, etc.)

[Ercassie]

How about figure that out when you come within a month of writing a HoH post :P With a list like that it looks like 10 years down the line

If Beren is still evading the Houses of Healing that far in the future, he's going to be in very big trouble !

[Winddancer]

[Nessa Saelind]

If Beren is still evading the Houses of Healing that far in the future, he's going to be in very big trouble!

I can neither confirm nor deny this statement at the present time, ma'am. Thank you, next question, please.

[Tharmáras]

I'll go with @Pele Alarion , @A Good Wife since she and I need to write together more. I've daunted you? You should see someone else's list...

@The King in Yellow , I must give fans what they want! Since you don't mind waiting for Beren to start A Study in Ivory, I'll move The Ward up the list! It is now the Eighth!


Hunters (FINISHED) - Beren
Gaol (FINISHED) - Beren and Sanya, Angol and Sarabeth.
[FINISHED) Northern Fiefdoms - Beren and Sanya at Harlond. Beren and Chrysanthemum "Crissy" in the Pelennor Fields.
(FINISHED) Tower Guard - The Undertaker's Daughter (Beren beginning Iole search for Tower Guard)
(NOW STARTING) Northern Fiefdoms - Beren at the Tavern of Seven Stars, dinner/spying with Nelladel.
The Hunters and the Hunted
(NOW STARTING) Ranger Commons - Beren talking to Nal.
Healing House - Beren bringing Isys.
Northern Fiefdoms - Mysterious Drinker, taking the glass from the Hunters RP.
Northern Fiefdoms - Talk with Narradir and Addhor which would have been in the Winter Pub, written for possibly the Harlond cafe.
Southern Fiefdoms - Araldur RP

I've edited this post on 7/27/21. I've decided to save most Gondor posts I want to do for myself, Sur, Cassie for the Beyond Free RP in the Imladris Forum and the Cottage of Lost Play.

[Tharmáras]

How about figure that out when you come within a month of writing a HoH post :P With a list like that it looks like 10 years down the line

If Beren is still evading the Houses of Healing that far in the future, he's going to be in very big trouble !

Context, Cassie...

@Winddancer :

[Ercassie]

@Tharmáras, can my procrastination/writers block borrow some of that power please ?

[Tharmáras]

I give you the power to defeat creative blocks and delays to productivity, @Ercassie

[Nessa Saelind]

I'll go with @Pele Alarion , @A Good Wife since she and I need to write together more. I've daunted you? You should see someone else's list...

Alrighty then ^_^ one Master Healer for Beren then coming right up Lolz I just remembered Quintus is going to have to review all those medical files at one point because rangers and therapy after the weird mission *adds to the list of ever-growing crazy ideas* Speaking of lists, I like to keep mine manageable in the spirit of realistic expectations and the need to have a life and you know to read a book from time to time What a concept I know!

[Ercassie]

@Tharmáras, Ok well, bottle that, and have the healers hand it out, and we'll all soon be posting in a nice timely manner *g* I shall not even mention the number of posts on my list. It will leave me in need of a healer to recover from the very thought of it.
*flees like Nal in pursuit of Hattie who is in pursuit of .. well, anything she sees, honestly.*

[Tharmáras]

I will also brew glory for the healers as well, @Ercassie and wearing a Hufflepuff robe . Presently, in the first Sanya post, Hattie is terroizing chipmunks .

I feel sorry for anyone evaluating Beren's pych files, @A Good Wife .

[Nessa Saelind]

@Tharmáras that's why Beren will give his therapist the good booze from his room , so she can pass some of it to her mentor who will be reviewing his files at one point

[Tharmáras]

I pity anyone who studies Nessa's psych files on Bear, @A Good Wife . That being said, Beren will be destraught giving up the Good Stuff though it's a comfort his liquors are in trusted hands .

[Nessa Saelind]

@Tharmáras - they are very carefully written words chosen with extreme care, and some things are somewhat coded her mentor will be highly amused by it.

[Nessa Saelind]

I'm searching the Wayback Machine for something, and I stumbled onto this thread. @Pele Alarion would you like me to add this to the repository? Could you look at it, see if it needs polishing or something?

[Raisins]

@Tharmáras @A Good Wife U feel like Honoured grandmother may attempt to pinch some high end liquors in order to have an accurate and complete review of the medical alcohol.

[Tharmáras]

Beren does need to reunite with Fuin on NuPlaza since Aigronding and Rusca have been hogging her all to themselves, @Fuin Elda ! B and Fuin need to hang out! Since Aigronding went back to Aman with Elrond, Fuin is one of the few closest Elven friends Beren still has left in the Fourth Age. He'll give her some of his booze, splitting it between Fuin and Nessa !

[Nessa Saelind]

@Tharmáras @A Good Wife U feel like Honoured grandmother may attempt to pinch some high end liquors in order to have an accurate and complete review of the medical alcohol.

Of course the Honoured Grandmother will get deluxe samples of Beren's good booze Drink and be merry Lady Grandmother! Don't break stuff! Or start a fight with plants!

[Raisins]

Of course the Honoured Grandmother will get deluxe samples of Beren's good booze Drink and be merry Lady Grandmother! Don't break stuff! Or start a fight with plants!

The plants will be absolutely fine. Fuin loves plants. It's poor orderly Fred that's gonna get it if she gets too drunk poor guy will die of a nosebleed or brain hermorage from blushing at what Honoured Grandmother might say.

[Nessa Saelind]

@Fuin Elda I don't know if I want to say "Let's hope Fred knows how to hide" or just get some cookies and watch the hilarity of that happening

[Pele Alarion]

I'm searching the Wayback Machine for something, and I stumbled onto this thread. @Pele Alarion would you like me to add this to the repository? Could you look at it, see if it needs polishing or something?

Ah, @A Good Wife, this is still mostly good stuff, I figure. I had a lot of links somewhere, though I am not sure where any longer. Also, you'd probably find more good stuff if you managed to find "Middle Earth Central" (I think it was called).

@Tharmáras What is it you say? In need of a Master Healer? *is hiding away somewhere in the garden*

[Tharmáras]

Don't make me bring Hattie to sniff you out, @Pele Alarion ! She's a retriever .

[Ankala Teaweed]

Pele Alarion, I am finishing the sandwiches and then, lo and behold, there will be Hurin's Wort, and honey and things! And hints of Dwarvish roots.

Seriously, I have a 3/4 draft for that batch going.

[Nessa Saelind]

To all of you wonderfully patient patients (look at me being punny, much wow, brava!) I'm catching up on my HoH posts this evening/tomorrow and I will do my best to catch up and respond to everything before my vacation ends. And if all goes well maybe start some new stories We shall see, but first things first - catch up on everything and respond to everyone. That should keep me busy for a while

[Nessa Saelind]

Response 1 of 3 is up in the HoH II thread. My responses to @Call of Bearthulhu and @Fuin Elda will hopefully be written, edited and posted by Monday.

Also a bit of housekeeping from me: I decided to move Nessa from the active healers' list to the healers on sabbatical list. Lately, I have been struggling with writing Nessa as a character, and I think it's time for a break so I can figure out what to do, where to go with her character. Don't worry I'm not leaving the Houses of Healing, I still have 2 characters here, Quintus who is a healer turned administrator and Matilda the nurse who might decide to become a healer's apprentice. This might be a fun RP experience and I might do that. And most storylines in HoH that Nessa was a part of are almost finished, and we can always talk about how to transfer something to my other characters if something needs to be transferred.

Speaking of HoH staff a question for everyone: Would anyone mind if I added Ioreth to the staff list as a character that I would play? She is one of my favourite Tolkien characters, a legendary female healer who is well versed in old lore and in the art of medicine. A representation of women and female influence on medicine and it's an honour, privilege and a pleasure to RP her. So far I haven't written her much, because I didn't know would people be OK with me doing that, but if nobody minds I would like to have the option to continue RP-in this important female character for the Houses of Healing and have people interact with her. Of course, if it's alright with everyone? I don't want to be presumptuous.

[Winddancer]

Anyone and everyone can RP a canon character. Nobody has a say over others doing that. I am saying that with the admin hat as it is important that everyone knows that that is something that is available to everyone and they do not have to ask for permission to do so. Of course if someone else is also playing that character, then please do not do it in the same thread as it will cause confusion.

As me: I would love to see you RP her more! <3

[Lailyn]

Yes! Please keep playing Ioreth! I'd love to see more of her.

I'm sorry you're struggling with Nessa. I really like reading her stories. (I loved your last one in the Tower Guard, it was really sweet and touching.) I understand how you feel and I hope taking a break will provide time you need to recharge your Nessa-batteries and that you have fun with your other characters in the meantime.

[Baphởmet]

Fleeg cared nothing for houses or healing or whatever an OOC was, but he was a great fan of stealing things. If he snuck in and stole egg from the dwarf, would this count as a claim? Would it be under handed and wicked enough? His stomach growled, too many eggs and centipedes.

[Raisins]

@Nessa Saelind No worries about the delay sometimes we all just run out of steam in terms of a character in certain settings for a short while and a break does us good. Revered Grandmother is patient and old, and will ENTIRELY corrupt poor Nurse Matilda. maybe even drag her out drinking when Nessa isn't looking!

And I'd love to see more Canon characters being played across the Plaza on a more permanent basis.

[Nessa Saelind]

Thank you everyone for your kind words and encouragement. It really means a lot to me. In post related news, more posts coming this weekend, no work and some family obligations are postponed to Sunday.

@Pele Alarion prompted by the idea of rangers coming in for a refresher of basic healing skills I copied some of the posts you made in Ye Olde Plaza in the Houses of Healing Library thread and turned them into pdf documents just in case. I uploaded them on Google Drive where I keep all my Plaza related documents. So far I have 3: Basic healer's kit, How to examine a patient and Wound care. This is purely to help anyone with RP, not a how to guide for diagnosing illnesses in RL. If you're OK with it I'll put them in the repository.

[Pele Alarion]

*finds her way in here finally* Ah, that is great that you found these, @Nessa Saelind, since they must have been eaten by computer gremlins and are no longer anywhere to be found in my HoH folder! *sets about diagnosing all possible illnesses*

[Nessa Saelind]

I still have Herb use and Types of herbal medicines to sort through from your old posts @Pele Alarion and I'm still trying to decide whether to search for scientific (Linnaeus) plant names or just leave it as is. It will depend on how lazy I am But I'll place these in the repository soonish.

[Raisins]

@Nessa Saelind I don't know if Gondor wants to use them as I haven't managed to find any posts thus far on Old Plaza containing them but I do remember the 'elven' herbs and how we set them up to be used if interested. Still kicking myself for throwing out my print outs of my Aphador, Healer, and Master Healer classes that I took years ago...

Athelas: Healing of Morgul wounds/Dark Wounds
Elanor*: Tinture from flowers for external infections/poisons in the wound, or ingested for poisons.
Mallorn Leaves*: Mixed with oak leaves in alcohol to create a poultice for slowing the bleeding of wounds.
Niphredil*: Topical or oral Painkiller. This was always as a tinture with the flowers
Seragon: Help replenish blood, after blood loss.


*Plaza Healer Lore not backed up by the books that I'm aware of.

[Nessa Saelind]

@Fuin Elda - of course we'll use them. Thank you. I'll put it in the Herb use document

The repository of links and things in the HoH thread isn't just meant to be used in Gondor, it was just a handy place where we could list all of the healing related material for RP purposes. Anyone can use these for RP purposes and they can be c/p to any HoH like thread in any Kingdom. Have at it, knowledge is always meant to be shared.

[Ankala Teaweed]

Yummy @Fuin Elda - I will definitely refer to this Elven herbal lore

[Nessa Saelind]

Hi everyone! Lest I forget (because I do sometimes forget things, comes with being a Woman of a Certain Age™ ).

The Houses of Healing as a thread on the NuPlaza have become more about interesting stories and storytelling than about someone's character going through healer training. And although so far in the HoH thread we have dealt with and RP-ed treating physical injuries, it certainly does not mean that the HoH are there only to treat these kinds of injures.

What I am trying to say with this very poorly worded intro. If anyone has a story arc or would like to RP their character or characters dealing with any kind of psychological issues (PTSD or other mental health issues) in a Middle Earth setting you are more than welcome to do so! And personally, I would love to help/participate in any way shape or form.

The above statement is not binding to anyone who is RP-ing a healer in the Houses of Healing. This is just me stating that: if someone wants to RP their character(s) dealing with any kind of psychological issues (believable for a faux-medieval Middle Earth setting) you can do so and I encourage you to. And if you need a healer/therapist I will assist. If anyone else who has a healer character in the Houses of Healing wants to participate in this they are free to do so, but they are not obligated to.

I hope I am making sense , if I'm not please let me know and I shall endeavour to explain or you know complicate thing more

[Ercassie]

You know you can take on Nal and his mental health, @Nessa Saelind. That would be the coffin experience/claustrophobia we spoke of, not any mental anguish that innocent passers by have suffered as a result of his reckless antics.

[Nessa Saelind]

@Ercassie well at least Nal was dressed when he caused mental anguish to the innocent members of the public Whenever you're ready to post is fine by me.

I just remembered that I forgot to mention it in my post, but although we are all aware that the Houses of Healing are a (medieval) hospital-like thread and that it's expected that sometimes there will be more detailed descriptions of injuries than in other threads I think, just to be on the safe side, that it would good to put a note saying that the post will be dealing with PTSD or other mental health issues So people are aware and can decide if they want to continue to read, just lightly skim or skip altogether because they might not feel comfortable with the content at the given moment.

[Baphởmet]

I think a mental health wing in the Houses of Healing would be fantastic! I'm sure there's a wealthy donor out there not named Frost that would be willing to give some coinage too. I'm not 100% sure on the historicity of mental health awareness in a medieval setting, but there are times we have to just say... "Well that's how it is now" and not looking the gift horse in his mouth.

That being said, I remembered I owe you a HoH post which I will get on as quickly as possible

[Nessa Saelind]

Heh, as always this is an excellent opportunity to research the attitudes and views of medieval people around the globe re mental health issues. Although I love when I can stick as close to a historical period as I can in my writing, Middle Earth is a fantasy setting and if we don't find information or we don't like it we can always throw that out the window and adapt modern methods to a Middle Earth setting. I am not wedded to historical accuracy all the time

By the by we'll ask the Queen to fund this endeavour Crown (tax) funds is the aim of the game

[Raisins]

Well technically the revered grandmother already somewhat had a PTSD triggered nightmare while in the house of healing so I mean if you or Matilda want to PUSH her on that further I am of course happy to do so (also I realized she has a bit of amnesia due to Afarfin MOST certainly being reborn and knowing who he is by the 4th age) so there is that lol Revered grandmother thinks it's 3rd age. lol

[Nessa Saelind]

@Fuin Elda are you sure the revered grandmother's amnesia is caused by the head injury? *thinking face* Could be just old age all those years melt into one another when you're a geriatric millennial

Joking aside, if you'd like to explore some of Fuin's traumatic experiences, and perhaps the different approaches that elvish healers and human healers would have regarding trauma I'd be very interested to see what we can do and what procedures we can craft

[Pele Alarion]

*whistles and ignores any non-physical problems*

[Nessa Saelind]

@Winddancer - Your request has been noted. I have not forgotten Liriel or her babies! One midwife post entered in the planner for the weekend, after the official ARPY business is finished and I can go drink myself stupid with the rest of the people And before anyone gets any silly ideas no drunk midwives will be making an appearance in the Houses of Healing

[Winddancer]

@Nessa Saelind no worries my dear, I know you said you wanted to shelve Nessa for a bit. So if you dont make it in, its fine as will just have Liriel head home while Naela panics :P There is not really anything more to rp anyways, she has been through enough births to know what to expect :P

[Nessa Saelind]

Now that the ARPYs are drawing to a close and I don't have to sort out tables or info packs or "harras" presenter I'll have a bit more time to organise my writing during the weekends and throw my organisational skills at the Houses of Healing. So posts will be coming at my normal factory rate

[Winddancer]

<3

[Pele Alarion]

I'll hopefully get back into business here; and also, @Nessa Saelind feel free to chase Pele around if you need someone to work on.

[Nessa Saelind]

I updated Ioreth's repository in the 2nd post with new material, including the link to @Pele Alarion Old Plaza Houses of Healing Library thread and the pdfs I made using her posts as a base. I need to sort the healing herbs part, but I'll get to it eventually.

Since mental health RP-ing was discussed here somewhat and I mentioned that those posts should have a warning do you think the Thread guidelines need to be adjusted? So far this is what the OP states (I copied everything from the old HoH OP)

Thread guidelines:

All general RPG rules apply.
Post your location on the top of your post.
Whiteout your out of character comments.
Posts over 300 characters preferred.

Should I add something like: Please include Content/Trigger Warning at the top of your post in bold red if your post touches on any sensitive topics {should I provide examples e.g. mental health issues (PTSD etc.); abuse: sexual, verbal, emotional; violence: domestic, assault, etc.)}

In addition, should I rephrase the 1st sentence from: All general RPG rules apply to All Plaza RP Rules Apply, please refer to the RP Code of Conduct if unsure? And change the 3rd sentence from: Whiteout your out of character comments. to IC posts only, please. If an OOC is necessary please mark it clearly and write it at the bottom of your post; you don’t need to white it out?

Let me know what you think and if the majority is in agreement regarding addition and adaptation of the guidelines I'll post an announcement in the thread stating clearly what was changed and what the changes are. I'll also post here re the changes.

[Winddancer]

I trust you know what is best for the thread, my dear <3

[Lailyn]

@Nessa Saelind just throwing out my support and appreciation for this idea. I may take you up on it sometime if/when I (and you) feel ready because its really something I want to be sure I have the appropriate time and energy for treating right.

One thing I will mention which @Amadhrill so wisely brought up when we waded into this territory with her and Lailyn in the Cavalry Courtyard, is a sort of caveat or disclaimer that you, the author, are not a licensed professional. We're all mostly adults and know this is fiction, but I thought it was a very good point Ama made that I had not thought of. I will leave the idea with you to contemplate.

I promise I'm making my way to the HoH like I said I would many months ago!