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Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:19 pm
by Túrin
He fits a good bit of it, but I'm not seeing a connection for the third and fourth lines.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:40 am
by Androthelm
is it Melkor? (To whom Aulë was said to be similar of craft?)

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:14 am
by Menolly
This is a real long shot guess, but maybe Boromir? (I suspect I'm interpreting "lawn" incorrectly.)

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:00 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
Saruman?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:27 am
by Túrin
Ahh, sorry, I meant to reply earlier. Melkor is a good guess, but I don't think he really had another thrust upon him. However, Saruman was the individual I was describing, well don @Flame Fried Ent!

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:34 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
Thanks! I only t cause I had to look something up for him for the Isengard Hall of Knowledge.

Second of three I am,
Yet never mentioned am I
By brother or nephews.
Young and hardy,
I fought with my father,
And was honoured by burning.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:49 pm
by Androthelm
Is it Frerin, Thorin's younger brother (middle of three siblings), who died at the Battle of Azanulbizar and was burned on a pyre?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:50 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
Yes it is! Your turn.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:27 am
by Androthelm
Ooh... I'm the clue-giver in both Riddles and Who/What/Where. Exciting stuff.

Cut off from full power by the year of my birth,
Sundered from my brother over Theories of Earth,
And outdone by my son who proved my brother true,
I blocked all reforms that my brother might do.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:09 pm
by Drifa
Might the answer be, Gimilkhâd, the father of Ar-Pharazôn?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:43 am
by Androthelm
It certainly is.

Cut off from full power by the year of my birth, -- Gimilkhâd was the younger brother of Tar-Palantir, Penultimate King of Numenor.
Sundered from my brother over Theories of Earth, -- Tar-Palantir was faithful to the Valar. Gimilkhâd was not, but...
And outdone by my son who proved my brother true, -- Ar-Pharazôn went further than his father, declaring war on the Gods.
I blocked all reforms that my brother might do. -- Still, Gimilkhâd was instrumental in leading the anti-Valar faction, blocking Tar-Palantir's attempts at reform

Congratulation @drifa, you are up!

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:22 pm
by Drifa
Thank you Androthelm! And thank Arda! *grin*. Here is a riddle. Good luck!

My roots are uncertain
My age a mystery
But ancient I would appear to be
Sent by my master of the shores
On an errand unknown
My history thus written,
My history thus formed.
Who am I?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:08 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
Cirdan?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:35 am
by Drifa
Hi there! No it is not Cirdan.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:27 am
by Androthelm
Gandalf? or, Olorin rather, arriving on the shores of Middle-Earth?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:49 pm
by Drifa
No it is not Gandalf. I believe we know where his roots lie.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:35 am
by Menolly
Tom Bombadil?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:14 am
by Li.
Osse?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:45 am
by Drifa
Hi Menolly and Li.! Good to see you! No it is not Tom or Osse. Here is a hint. This character only appears once in The Lord of The Rings.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:51 pm
by Li.
The Mouth of Sauron?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:49 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
Galdor?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:59 am
by Menolly
Guess I'll keep guessing on a similar theme. :lol: Is it Old Man Willow?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:21 am
by Drifa
*grin* The answer is Galdor. You win the stuffed toy, Flame Fried Ent. Well done!

Galdor of the Havens was an Elf who in the Third Age lived in Mithlond under Círdan. He was sent by Círdan on an errand to Rivendell. He was present at the Council of Elrond representing Círdan. Thus he went down in history. There is no mention of his date of birth.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:20 am
by Flame Fried Ent
Yay!

Let’s see....trying to make this one tougher!

Last and yet not last,
In an unbroken line am I.
Two languages I spoke,
But one I preferred.
My son preferred that one more,
That he was also first,
Yet still in unbroken Kingly line.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:02 am
by Androthelm
My gut instinct, even after a few days of considering it, still comes back to Aragorn and perhaps Eldarion as last king in exile / first king born into the new dynasty of Gondor, but I can't seem to get it to work with the language element. I believe Aragorn spoke Quenya, but... Did Eldarion not? Did he prefer Westron? I'm not sure. I don't think I'm correct.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:25 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
You’re right in that you got it wrong.

But you’re on the right track with what group of people you’re focussed on.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:48 pm
by Drifa
Oh my, I have been obsessed with this puzzle since the 14th, especially the language preference, hahahahaha.

What about Denethor? He was presumed to be the last Stewart, but not so. Aragorn renewed the office and Faramir became Stewart. He also became the first Prince of Ithilien. He preferred the Common tongue but spoke also the tongue of the Nolodor, though he did not commonly use it.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:23 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
Nope, sorry @drifa.....

Like, Androthelm, you've got the right group/race/whatever, but off in languages, people, location, and so on.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:38 pm
by Drifa
Gah! Awesome riddle, Flame Fried Ent.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:50 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
hahaha, @drifa ! First riddle I've had that's been really hard.

Hint: Y'all are in the wrong Age.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:02 pm
by Androthelm
Mm this is a really good one. Just talking out loud (I don't want to resort to just flipping through my books, but...) my guess is it's someone in Numenor, with the language issue being something in regards to Adunaic vs Quenya as far as Numenorian politics on the Elves and Valar went? Hope that jogs somebody else's memory because I am still struggling with mine.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:48 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
Good to see that people aren’t giving up on this!

Getting kinda warm there.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:08 pm
by Drifa
Okay one more try and I shall need another hint, I fear. I am driving my husband around the proverbial bend with this riddle. *grin*
I will guess again, and it shall be, Meneldur?

Last and yet not last - he was the second last King before the first Queen. He was from an unbroken line.
Two languages I spoke,
But one I preferred - Sindarin and Númenórean.
My son preferred that one more, - Aldarion actually preferred the Númenórean speech
That he was also first, ?
Yet still in unbroken Kingly line.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:56 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
Getting closer @drifa......just getting preferred languages mixed up.

You’ll get it soon!

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:32 pm
by Drifa
Hi, its me again. *grin*

Tar-Ardamin: he was the second last King to have his name spoken in Adûnaic by the King's Men. The other was Tar-Calmacil before him.
Ar-Adûnakhôr (Tar-Herunúmen): he was the first King to take the sceptre with a title in the Adûnaic tongue.
Both King's spoke the Elven-tongue, but obviously preferred the Adûnaic tongue, the latter more so.

Is it Tar-Ardamin?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:46 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
:encore: :encore: :encore: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

YAY for @drifa

You're right!

He was the last to really use/have his Quenya name, first to really use his Adunaic name; his son was first to really use the Adunaic name; so first and yet last. Yet they both had an unbroken kingly line down to Aragorn.

You're up!

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:16 pm
by Drifa
I kept coming back to Ar-Adûnakhôr (Tar-Herunúmen) but could not figure out the 'last but not last' connection. And I still didn't get it right in my interpretation of the riddle in my last post, hahaha.
Thanks for the hints, Flamed Fried Ent. Good riddle.

Here is an easy one.

What, in the Common Tongue, does not rhyme with Gandalf and is quite sinuous ?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:37 am
by Flame Fried Ent
River Sirion?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:44 am
by Menolly
Smaug?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:09 pm
by Drifa
Hahaha, Smaug. Love that! Hi Menolly! Long time no see.

Nope , both not what I am looking for.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:50 am
by Menolly
Hi @drifa! Nice to cross paths with you in both riddle threads. :grin: I feel like there are far too many sinuous things that do not rhyme with Gandalf. Perhaps the watcher in the water?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:18 pm
by Drifa
😘 Nope!

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:22 am
by Kementari
Mithril?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:35 pm
by Drifa
Hi ho Kementari! Welcome to the NU Plaza! No it is not mithril. The key is, the common tongue.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:42 pm
by Li.
Is it actually common tongue? I hear they are quite sinewy.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:34 pm
by Drifa
Not the tongue, Li.. :rasp:

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:44 pm
by Flame Fried Ent
Grima Wormtongue?

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:25 pm
by Androthelm
Is it muscle? as in, an sinew-y element of the common "tongue"

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:43 pm
by Drifa
Hahaha, nope, nope. I do believe that there are more tongues than the common one.

Re: Tree-Twisting Riddles

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:36 am
by Flame Fried Ent
Olórin?