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Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:43 am
by Chrysophylax Dives
We need to reinvent the riddle thread.

Why was it ever placed in the Shire? Riddles are rum, sodomy, and the lash. Adventure not fit for most Hobbits.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:09 am
by Drífa
Reinventing is good. Suppose you have a new idea for a riddle thread. Pray, tell, and share.

By the way, the 'who am I?' the riddle pertains to is a world traveller.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:44 pm
by Romeran
Hmm could the riddle refer to Gandalf? The colors refer to his appearance as both Gandalf the grey and white and with a blue hat at first. Then the shaking around maybe refers to his reincarnation. And the surprise refers to Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli’s surprise when they run into Gandalf reborn?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:38 pm
by Drífa
Hi ho,@Romeran! Good to see you again!
Gandalf is the answer, but I was being silly with the shaking about. The riddle was based on this quote, but your answer works, too.

All that the unsuspecting Bilbo saw that morning was an
old man with a staff. He had a tall pointed blue hat, a long
grey cloak, a silver scarf over which a white beard
hung down below his waist, and immense black boots. The Hobbit, An Unexpected Party

Yay! Your up! New riddle, if you please!

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:00 pm
by Romeran
@Drifa good to be back and posting. Glad to see riddles still going!

Ah the black was putting me off but the black boots duh!

I’m a considerably better guesser than riddle writer and this is probably far too easy like my usual attempts but here we go. (Middle-earth related):

Old I am, and slow to boot.
Known to few of patient mind.
In rolling hills a name you’ll find,
A fragment case of lengthy root.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:11 pm
by Aikári Salmarinian
Fimbrethil?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:22 pm
by Romeran
Not Fimbrethil but you’re picking up on the motif.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:57 pm
by Aikári Salmarinian
Okay, Bregalad?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:40 pm
by Romeran
Also not Bregalad. And before you go guessing all of the named Ents I’ll just tell you right now that the answer is not a specific Ent :lol:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:54 pm
by Aikári Salmarinian
Romeran knows me too well. :cry: I was more or less planning too. Don't betray the answer, then it is not fun. :moon:

Not an Ent. Hmm, Slow to boot, old... the right motif. The elmlike Tree-man, Halfast Gamgee saw once in the North Moors?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:07 am
by Romeran
I’ll avoid giving any further hints then unless people get very stuck.

But no it is not the elmlike Treeman that Halfast allegedly (at least if you’re more inclined to side with Ted Sandyman) saw.

Keep guessing :smile:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:20 pm
by Romeran
It's been a few days since a guess came in.

Just as @Drifa failed to mention the last line in their riddle I also failed to do the same. Please add:

"What am I?"

To the end, that is the answer is not a who or a where so much as a what.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:43 am
by Aikári Salmarinian
Sorry, I have been busy a few Days.

Am I alive?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:47 am
by Romeran
Was that a rhetorical question concerning your busy-ness :lol: ?

And yes by "what" I mean that the answer is not a living creature or a physical location.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:09 am
by Aikári Salmarinian
A what can be an animalsort. Okay a thing then.

Am I large of size?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:53 am
by Romeran
Am I in the “Who, What, or Where am I?” Thread and not the riddles thread? :lol:

I can add a clue later if necessary.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:18 am
by Drífa
Give us more timeses, precious. I have ideas but need more time to read. *grin*

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:28 pm
by Aikári Salmarinian
So as you have not confirmed the object is alive or not, it is alive I take it. As it is a what, then the wood of Fangorn?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:35 pm
by Romeran
As I mentioned above “the answer is not a living creature or a physical location.” that is to say that it is not a living creature (human, animal, or otherwise) nor is it a location.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:14 pm
by Aikári Salmarinian
Romeran: Okay, I am not that good with alternative yes and no. I was picking up the motif with Fimbrethil, so it is connected to the Ents, but not a particular Ent. And then it is what, not a location or a person?

The Entmoot gathering?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:10 pm
by Romeran
It is not the entmoot gathering. What I meant was the theme of Ents in general was on the right track but not that it was a specific Ent. Despite your guess here being wrong, it also follows an Entish theme :smile:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:33 pm
by Aikári Salmarinian
Is it the Entdrink?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:40 pm
by Romeran
Not the ent-draught.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:06 pm
by Aikári Salmarinian
Romeran: More things there are not to the Ents. They have no houses, use no tools, own nothing, or wear no clothes. :shrug: I have to leave with this. Maybe Drifa is able to figure it out? :confused:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:18 am
by Romeran
I fear if I say any more that I'll give it away entirely! I'll add a hint later, if the struggle continues. Perhaps @Hill, @Ercassie or @Saranna want to give it a shot? Each line in the riddle is a specific reference; there's no filler here.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:01 pm
by Drífa
Are you a hill?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:14 pm
by Saranna
Are you all the huorns together?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:44 pm
by Saranna
Or are you Orthanc?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:09 pm
by Ercassie
Aikári Salmarinian wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:06 pm Romeran: More things there are not to the Ents. They have no houses, use no tools, own nothing, or wear no clothes.
I am pretty sure Ents do actually have Ent-Houses, Aiks. Because if I recall, Treebeard specifically took Merry and Pippin to stay in what he called an Ent-House, during their time in Fangorn. It was a place which he suggested might be called Wellinghall, in their language, but where there were said to be alas, no chairs for the hobbits, although there was a table. :googly:

As for the riddle itself, I would tentatively venture a guess at Old Man Willow ? But I am very likely wrong and grown tree-ish in my riddle guessing. It has been a long time. Thank you @Romeran for inspiring me to even make an attempt. :smooch: Nice riddle. :thumbs:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:09 pm
by Romeran
It is not a hill, huorns, orthanc, nor old man willow.

Ok time for a small hint.

Hint: Not everything that we create is a physical object, even if we use it almost every day, although perhaps less often for Ents.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:16 pm
by Ercassie
Perhaps then The Long List which Treebeard tells of ?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:39 pm
by Romeran
No but you’re getting warmer. The answer is in part why the list is so long.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:51 pm
by Drífa
Are you Old Entish, the ancient tongue of the Ents? "a-lalla-lalla-rumba-kamanda-lind-or-burúmë" hill.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:35 pm
by Romeran
You got it @Drifa! Here are the references:

Old I am, and slow to boot.

Old Entish as you might say. It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time to say anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to.” (TTT, my bold)

Known to few of patient mind.

“The language that they had made was unlike all others: slow, sonorous, agglomerated, repetitive, indeed longwinded; formed of a multiplicity of vowel-shades and distinctions of tone and quantity which even the loremasters of the Eldar had not attempted to represent in writing. They used it only among themselves; but they had no need to keep it secret, for no others could learn it. (Appendix F, my bold)

In rolling hills a name you’ll find,

“What are you doing in it all? I can see and hear (and smell and feel) a great deal from this, from this, from this a-lalla-lalla-rumba-kamanda-lindor-burúmë. Excuse me: that is a part of my name for it; I do not know what the word is in the outside languages: you know, the thing we are on, where I stand and look out on fine mornings, and think about the Sun, and the grass beyond the wood, and the horses, and the clouds, and the unfolding of the world. ” (TTT, my bold)

A fragment case of lengthy root.

“Except where the Hobbits seem to have made some attempts to represent the shorter murmurs and calls made by the Ents; a-lalla-lalla-rumba-kamanda-lindor-burúme also is not Elvish, and is the only extant (probably very inaccurate) attempt to represent fragment of actual Entish.” (Appendix F, my bold)

Floor is yours.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:18 pm
by Drífa
Ah, that was a good riddle, Romeran! I was struggling until you gave the last hint. Thanks!

I will try and get a riddle up this weekend.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:44 pm
by Drífa
If anyone would like to post a riddle, please do so. I appear to be all riddled out. *grin*

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:18 pm
by Ephtariat
He has strong teeth but does not eat,
And he is not awake nor is asleep,
An animal whose calls do often rhyme,
And what he hunts offends him more than crime

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:20 pm
by Ephtariat
This is taken from my forthcoming fantasy novel "The Fall of the Kingdom", the third volume in the Chronicles of Arlen trilogy

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:32 pm
by Drífa
So it is not M-e related, Ephtariat, right? *grin*

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:41 pm
by Ephtariat
It may be asked in Middle-earth :-P

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:44 pm
by Ephtariat
You may take this to the Halls of Injustice, though, @Drifa. I heard they're waiting for you there... :tongue:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:52 pm
by Drífa
we shall never surrender

Are you a river?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:09 am
by Ephtariat
Nope :tongue:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:49 pm
by Chrysophylax Dives
The wind?

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:36 pm
by Ephtariat
Nope :tongue:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:40 pm
by Romeran
Are you a saw?

He has strong teeth but does not eat, : saws have teeth
And he is not awake nor is asleep, : saw is an object
An animal whose calls do often rhyme, : the back and forth sound of a saw written as an onomatopoeia would rhyme
And what he hunts offends him more than crime : "boo wood!" - saws

:lol:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:44 pm
by Ephtariat
Not a saw :tongue:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:17 pm
by Ephtariat
Well? Nobody guesses it? I was wondering whether it was too easy before asking... :tongue:

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:45 pm
by Chrysophylax Dives
Riddles are like research in this place, @Ephtariat, they can remain on the table for months and months. Just be patient and the Dwarf will get it.

Re: Riddles in the Dark

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:52 pm
by Romeran
Is it a Comb?