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Plaza History Project - Admin Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:50 pm
by Lirimaer
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In the beginning, there was Eru, the One, although he was then known as Philip J Kooijman and he made the first icons for all beings.

In a brief flash of creative excitement, he made helpers. Well, two helpers and a Lord of Chaos.

(Irwin - Melkor, Lirulin - Varda, Cheesypoof87 - Aulë)

And the next month, he made more!

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But Oromë said, 'Lo, @Peeg can make prettier things!'

And so it went on, with every new admin having their own unique icon ... except Mandos, for some reason. :googly:

You can see I still have some gaps in DATES, and maybe I am missing entire admins from the REGIONS period, but I can only know that if you tell me! I know I do have some of the dates here in this thread, so as I work through this, I will update this post.

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Aulë - Cheesypoof87 (Feb 2002-2003)
Aulë - Loki Teshvara (2003)
Aulë - Mo was Aule in Jan 2004
Mahal - @Dis (2004-2007 - as she says later in this thread - "after Mo, for 3 years")
Aulë - Dain Rubyholder (May 08-Apr 10) Aulë (2008-05-09 - 2010-04-16)

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Estë - Pip Reonyea (2002-04) (@halloweens 02-04)
Estë - Fëawen (Apr 06-?)
Estë - @Tari (?-2008)
Estë - @Tzülien (Jul 09-Oct 10) (2009-07-15 - 2010-09-30)
Estë - Merl Moriestiel (Nov 12-2018)(2012-11-12 - 2018 shutdown)

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Lórien - Endymion (2003-05)
Lórien - @Arwe Thereyet (May 05-Jun 06) Lorien (2005-05-14 - 2006-06-28)
Irmo & Lórien - halfir (Oct 07-Jul 12) (+the Emeritus version in the Icon Workshop) Irmo (2007-10-05 - 2012-07-04)

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Mandos - Le Bob (2003)
Mandos - Mo (Feb/Mar 2004)
Mandos - Hoth (2004) (Apr 04-Aug 06) (2004-04-07 - 2006-08-21)
Mandos - Istarendil (? 2006- 2008?)
Mandos - @Lord of the Rings (Sep 09 - Mar 18)

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Manwë - Mormegil (Jul? 2002 @halloween - 2003?)
Manwë - Alkthoniel (2003?-Nov 2009)

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Melkor - Irwin (Feb-Nov 2002) - but not @halloween 2002, so possibly only till Oct?
Melkor - Lord Indur (Nov 02-Jun 04)
Morgoth - Mo (Jun 2004- 2006-07-10)
Melkor - Hoth (2006-08-21 - 2008-11-28)
Melkor - Faldras (Nov 11-2018) Melkor (2008-11-28 - 2018 shutdown)

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Nessa - Baelmyrrdn/Bearamir (Sep 02-May 07) - became the first Emeritus (*) (2002-09-12 - 2007-05-01)
Nessa - @Sil (Nov 09-Oct 10) ((2008-11-11 - 2010-10-04))

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Nienna - @Donrufie (Sep 02-? 03)
Nienna - Banazir (2003-04)
Nienna - Six Beleriand (2005-06)
Nienna - Feawen briefly (?-[url-http://herald.istad.org/april06.html#feature3]Apr 06[/url])
Nienna - @Eléowyn (Apr 2006-07)
Nienna - Fuin Elda (2008) - until February (2010?)
Nienna - Beliowyn (Oct 11-2018 shutdown) (2011-10-14 - 2019)

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Oromë - @Peeg (2002-?) - became Emeritus when he stepped down
Oromë - @Li. (2009-10)
Oromë - @Widfara (Oct 2010-2012)

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Tulkas - Collecthor (@halloween 2004-05)
Tulkas - Tarkano? (or was he red?) ()
Tulkas - Faldras Tulkas (2008-05-30 - 2008-11-28)
Tulkas - Amalric (2009)#
Tulkas - Daywalker (2016-18)

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Ulmo - Osse (? not @halloweens 02-04)
Ulmo - Arlo Cuthalion Ulmo (2004-04-12 - 2005-12-01)
Ulmo - @Tari ([url-http://herald.istad.org/april06.html#feature3]Mar[/url]-Aug 06)
Ulmo - @Túrin (Aug 2006-?)
Ulmo - Tyr (2008-?)
Ulmo - Hoth (2008-11-28 - 2009-08-03) Aug 2009
Ulmo - @Idesinholde Ulmo (2010-11-17 - 2011-05-09)
Ulmo - @Aigronding Mordagnir (2016-?)

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Vairë - Gilraen (2002)
Vairë - Elenedhel (2003)
Vairë - Fëawen (@ halloween 04)
Vairë - @Brandybuck (2005 -?)

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Vána - Lorelei (2002)
Vána - Seregon (2003-Apr 2006)
Vána - Lanthir Lamath (2006? - 2018 shutdown)

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Varda - Lirulin (Feb 2002)
Varda - Elwing (2003)
Varda - @Blackrose Bugg (Jun 2004-Aug 2009)
Varda - Kyung Silverleaf (Oct 2010) Varda (2010-11-17 - 2011-12-11)
Varda - @Tarawen (2016-18)

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Yavanna - Engwaduriel - (Feb 2002-? 2003)
Yavanna - Luthy (Jan 2003-May 2005)
Yavanna - Rohanna (Feb 06-Jan 07)
Yavanna - @Finduilas Faelivrin (Nov 08-Apr 10) (2008-11-10 - 2010-04-21)
Yavanna - Pele Alarion (2016-18)
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TaBA

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Beorn - Luthy (Jan 2007-Dec 08)
Gwaihir - @Lirimaer (Jan 2007-Dec 08)
Smaug - @Tzülien (2009-01-02 - 2009-07-15)
Mod (icon?) - Sarani/Nineran/Mistanis

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Elwing and Marina began it ... before handing it over to ...
Bilbo - Maiarian Man (Jun 2003-Jun 04)
Feanor - Ander (Jun 2004-Sep 05)
Feanor - Istarendil (Sep 2005-Jan 07)
Andreth - Firefly (Jan-Jun 07)
? - Eile (Sep 2007-?)
? - Nauryrn @Naur
Image - Feanor - @Fuin Elda (Feb 2010)

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Late (Dec?) 2013-Mar 2018. See Ducky's Lore scavenging thread for more details.

Other roles:

Plaza Council:
@Peeg - Sub-Eru
@Blackrose Bugg - Treasurer?
Mo - Coder?
Dain - Business Manager (2011-04-03 - 2011-07-24)

Once again requesting your help, building upon the work of others in the Icon Workshop thread ... as with the previous thread all about rulers and their icons, this one is all about the admin and maiar icons and their wearers.

Now, in the Icon Workshop thread, Sil and Moriel posted giant composite pictures of the icons which have SO many more icons than I currently possess. Mostly this is because they were too small and resizing them just made them exceedingly horrible. It means that I'm missing a ton of icons though - see below:

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I'd like the originals, if we can find them - otherwise, we'll just live without (or with a smaller version, I suppose).

Unused/icons we don't know who had them ...
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Obviously, I've added in the names I think - but I'm open to correction! :smiley8:
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Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:11 pm
by Burnt Toast
I'll start with the few I know off the top of my head...

M13 Tinfang- Tarawen held March 2012 - January 2013
M18 Lindo - I (Morwen Daegomir / Toast) wore the toasty Lindo eye March 2012 - May 2013

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:27 pm
by Zôrzimril
I wore the blue birdy Tinfang from March 2012-January 2013.

Ooooh oh. There are also the later admin icons from 2016 that had a different font on them. I have mine; I’ll see if I can find the others.

ETA: A51 was Kyung Silverleaf. Not fully sure on dates.
A29 was also worn by Beliowen.
A34 was also worn by Wídfara.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:45 pm
by Winddancer
All this is just a maybe, as it is how the archive saved them, not memory

A4 was Cheesypoof87
A17 Mormegil
A26 Don Adargell
M1 Vivienne
A37 Osse
A15 Le Bob
A52 Engwaduriel
A41 Gilraen
A48 Lirulin
A45 Lorelei
M2 AdvalonsTerreus
M3 Araweth was saved with this one
PL1 Ander was saved with this one

Found here: http://web.archive.org/web/200408300738 ... i_bios.asp
And here: http://web.archive.org/web/200411250947 ... n_vali.asp

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:52 pm
by Zôrzimril
A few more:

A10 was also worn by Merl Moriestiel
A16 was Lord of the RIngs
I think M17 was @Naur?
M12 was Wídfara's before she became an admin, I believe
M19 despite no quality image was Quill's, and I had it for a time while my Tinfang was made

I haven't yet found Daywalker's, Pele's, or Aig's admin icons (in the later style), but here is mine (created by Lanthy):
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Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:58 pm
by Silky Gooseness
Couple Estës for ya
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And this one which was Tzülien’s

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M18 is @Li.

Was A51 Tuesday Evening? Can anyone recall??

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:02 pm
by Dimcairien Luiniel
I seem to recall halfir as A12 at some point (2008-2009ish?), but then that could be my brain just being weird.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:10 pm
by Zôrzimril
@Sil - A51 was Kyung's! And @Dimcairien Luiniel I don't recall halfir as Lorien but that also could be my terrible memory.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:33 pm
by Winddancer
A16 was saved to Lord of the Rings 2015
http://web.archive.org/web/201503142317 ... post631321

Btw, some of these still work, shows Dain's reign for example:
http://web.archive.org/web/201503160814 ... s-Timeline

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:53 pm
by Lail
I can confirm from memory that
A26 - Nienna - was Don Rufie/Don Adargell

I also recall halfir as both A12 and A13, @Dimcairien Luiniel...

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:56 pm
by Dimcairien Luiniel
@Lailyn I'm somewhat decent at remembering colours, and I was certain halfir had a very green icon at one point, so I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:01 am
by Lail
Yeah I have a pretty visual memory and its weird I remember a lot of who wore these.
I also recall Bearamir wearing A24 but what I can't recall is whether Bearamir and Baelmyrrdn were the same person with a name change or not... :smiley14: I guess I don't remember names as well as pictures, though.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:15 am
by Li.
The best I can do for dates is saying that I joined Valinor as Lindo some time in 2008 and left probably some time in 2010-2011.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:19 am
by Quill
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Here's my Nerdanel icon. I'll have to get back to you on dates...

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:30 am
by Zôrzimril
Ah, the Nerdanel icon! Yay. Also this thread (more than others for whatever reason) is making me realize icon sizes on Narvlaza are smaller than Old Plaza never mind it's just the padding on the inside of the post body making it look that way :smiley16:.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:10 am
by Silky Gooseness
A55 wasn’t Rohanna or at least not the face she wore for the majority of her tenure. I think A55 was one Peeg made but was not in use. I am sure Roh’s chosen face was more purple than that. There’s a Vana he made that didn’t get used either because it gave off a slight “I’m about to chomp this birdy” vibe haha

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:49 pm
by Lirimaer
Mhmmm - I wasn't sure if it was purple enough!! I just hoped, because I don't have the more purple icons at the right size/quality.

I know that Vana, but I only have the poor small .jpg of it. If it eats birds, then maybe it doesn't deserve resurrection.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:33 am
by Silky Gooseness
@Lirimaer: this icon was Rohanna’s, but I don’t know if this will be too pixelated for you - I am uploading on mobile! I have a “large version” which is of better quality than the one I uploaded - I’ll see if I can get that to you.

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Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:36 am
by Silky Gooseness
Ears darling - This is the better version although not as complete as Moriel’s I don’t think. It’s in PNG, so not as bad as JPEG. See what you can do with it?!
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Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:38 am
by Lirimaer
:smiley22: That might work - I'll have a look at it later!

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:54 am
by Lirimaer
Actually no, I won't - I think that's perfect, Sil! :smiley11:

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:45 pm
by Tari
You got both of mine right - and I've been just "Tari" on plaza since before I was admin. That said, I have no idea what years I was admin. I resigned in 2008. That's about as much as I remember.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:28 am
by Lirimaer
Yo, Tari - removed the Boffin for you. You'll always be a hobbit to me though - old neurons! :smiley11:

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:32 pm
by Burnt Toast
The M18 Lindo I held after Li did, mar. 2012-may 2013 (would have been under the name Morwen Daegomir at the time)
@Tarawen was m13 Tinfang mar 2012-jan. 2013

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:55 am
by Eléowyn
I wore A29 (Nienna) from 2006-2007.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:53 pm
by Lirimaer
Thanks, folks.

I think I'm up to date. If I am woefully wrong on this, please point it out!

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:40 pm
by Burnt Toast
Thanks for doing all this, @Lirimaer! It looks like you missed adding Tarawen as Tinfang (M13). She held the rank from Mar. 2012-Jan. 2013.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:43 am
by Zôrzimril
In addition to what @Lucifer said about Tinfang, A67 was me - 2016-2018.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:35 am
by Lirimaer
Gotcha - thanks, both!

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:10 pm
by Li.
I think M14 belonged to Hanna Banks, but I couldn't tell you when that was.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:07 pm
by Lirimaer
Ok. :smiley22:

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:21 pm
by Culfinwen Lihtarwe
M11--I would have been Rian in late 2006 to early 2007, it wasn't a very long tenure. Also, someone was Rian before me (I think directly before me) because I never had my own icon, only used theirs. I'm trying to find it in my old computer. I'll post if I am successful!

EDIT: I have delved into the depths of ancient history and discovered it! Plus a random tribute rank I guess I was awarded, in case that's useful somewhere! (pretty sure it was also a Cottage trib rank)
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Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:56 pm
by Lirimaer
Updated your dates :smiley22:

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:43 pm
by Lirimaer
Trawling the archives again ...

@Li. Were you Manwe in 2010?
@Idesinholde Were you Ulmo?

Lorists - I'm not sure of your roles - were you Lore Maiar? or were these given as tribute? I am hoping for the former.
@geordie Hugo Bracegirdle
@Dorwiniondil Old Took

Or is this a weird 'wrong pic saved again' thing?

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:49 pm
by Zôrzimril
Psst @Lirimaer - they were lore Stewards. I believe Saranna’s rank was Lúthien. Troelsfo was also a steward but I don’t remember his icon of the top of my head.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:55 pm
by Lirimaer
Oh nice ... was it just those 4?

I'll go looking for the other icons.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:05 pm
by Burnt Toast
I don't know if you already have them, but in my mayor icon searching, I came across a couple--

Dorwiniondil:
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Saranna:
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@Tarawen I dunno if you'd found Daywalker's yet, but I came across it:

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Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:11 pm
by Lirimaer
Didn't have Saranna's, or Daywalker's ... thank you!

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:11 pm
by Zôrzimril
@Lirimaer - yep, those were the four stewards. Now I think on it a bit, maybe Troelsfo was Pengolodh?

@Sil’s Fool - Ahh I haven't been able to find that one yet, but that's the one! The other two newer-style ones remaining would be Pele's Yavanna and Aig's Ulmo.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:15 pm
by Li.
Lirimaer wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:43 pm @Li. Were you Manwe in 2010?
Nope, if I was then it was either a silly experimentation on my part, or a coding error.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:22 pm
by Lirimaer
Oh I have Pengolodh already. Excellent.

Thanks, Li. Nice to have it cleared up - the plaza via WBM is a mess.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:54 pm
by Zôrzimril
Ooo, I found @Pele Alarion's Yavanna in the Mayor announcement thread that Toasty linked!

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Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:59 pm
by Burnt Toast
Oh it showed up for you! I'm so glad. It just showed for me as an empty spot. I love that one.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:11 am
by Pele Alarion
Tara, are you saying that I should get a green lipstick? :smiley10:

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:41 pm
by Zôrzimril
@Pele Alarion - why not? :smiley9: Yours was a lovely icon.

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:44 pm
by Silky Gooseness
Here is @geordie’s Hugo Bracegirdle: Image

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:23 pm
by Lirimaer
I do have it already. Somewhat smaller. What sort of GIANT PLAZA are you visiting? :smiley10:

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:48 pm
by Narv
dangit Sil you're not supposed to let anyone know about Secret Giant Plaza

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:03 am
by Idesinholde
Lirimaer wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:43 pm Trawling the archives again ...
@Idesinholde Were you Ulmo?
@Lirimaer Yes my admin one was Ulmo.

I've been Witchking and Thranduil as ruler and Ulmo as admin. Cannot remember the dates, nor do I have the icons saved somewhere unfortunately. :smiley16:

Re: Plaza History Project - Admin and Maiar Icons

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:31 am
by Lirimaer
@Idesinholde Ahhhh, I wonder if I can remember where I was when I saw you ... I take it your icon was different to the ones in the OP?

I think we have your Thranduil in the Rulers thread. Can you check if one of the minion icons was you? (Also, I'm assuming this was all in the Regions time? Or were you a minion before?)