Plaza History Project - ATR and SCR Icons

Lirimaer · Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:23 am

They came into being.

I think we may have found all the SCRs/ATRs in the WBM, but I have hope that one day someone will come along with a photobucket account they keep getting hatemail from and fill in all the blanks for me! :geek:

I've taken the names for the icons from the 'Ranks & Priviliges' (sic) pages on the old plaza, since clearly they were awarded at some stage. The icons themselves are a little hit and miss, since the WBM decided to save stuff around April Fools' and Halloween for year after year, just to be contrary. And for some reason, some kingdoms clearly stopped awarding some SCRs after a while since they just disappeared - or were replaced by the aforementioned trash icons. There's a project for someone else ...

Anyway ... to the icons.

ATRs

And onward to the SCRs.

Also, you forgot to add missing icons - Pillar of Anarion

Lirimaer · Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:28 am

Sil wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:44 pm

Found this don’t know who it is

And then there's this personthing. The border is post-Peeg, and thus not helpful in denoting its area.

Burnt Toast · Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:32 pm

Hm, this isn't super helpful-- but I remember Gondor also had another SCR that I held at one point, I think it was called 'Guard of the Citadel' or something-- just a had a generic soldier with the winged helm. I'll do a bit more digging; haven't had any luck thus far.

Lirimaer · Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:28 pm

Oh nice ... If we know what they are we can always have a go at re-creating them.

Just stole Dernhelm from a Rohan thread, didn't even know it existed!

Narv · Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:08 am

You made The Void?? It was my favourite

Lirimaer · Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:49 am

To be fair, there wasn't a great deal of skill involved in that one!!

Li. · Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:50 pm

Sooo, the icon of the lady's face which is at a diagonal angle with oddly coloured seashells over her hair. That one was made by me and is an alternative Uinen icon. I'm not sure if it was ever actually used.

Dwim · Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:54 pm

That Tilion icon you made looks amazing! I would kill to wear that one.

Edit: My vague memory is telling me the last icon you've listed in Gondor is Aredhel. Hope I'm not wrong.

Lirimaer · Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:50 pm

Good to know, Li. Thanks.

Dwim, thank you! :oops: I hope you get to. Your memory exceeds mine on the matter of the nameless lady, so I am quite willing to name her Aredhel. (Why she and Eol are in Fangorn though ...

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I do wonder if the kingdom borders on SCRs are holding us back somewhat!

Lail · Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:17 pm

I think you have all of Rohan's SCRs labelled correctly! And some of us Riders believe the ? Rohan guy with the beard was Dúnhere.
I though that Gondor mystery lady was Aredhel, too.

Dwim · Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:09 am

Lirimaer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:28 am
Sil wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:44 pm

Found this don’t know who it is
And then there's this personthing. The border is post-Peeg, and thus not helpful in denoting its area.

@Aigronding Mordagnir do you remember what SCR this is? I believe it was an Eriador SCR and the border seems to indicate that too.

Moriel · Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:18 am

I think it might be Halbarad? Aig can probably confirm or deny though.

Eriol · Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:32 am

It's Halbarad, @Dwim and @Moriel :smiley8: ! There's still a use, hopefully, for that icon if no one minds. Unless I decided to use the one from the LOTR movies for Osdolen. Appreciate y'all tagging me!

Dwim · Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:49 am

@Aigronding Mordagnir, sweet, I knew we could trust in your memory! And @Moriel, yours is most trustworthy too.

Lirimaer · Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:10 pm

Note to self:
Recently found:
Gondor: Ioreth the healer
Rohan: Merry as esquire
To find:
Regions: The Pillar of Anarion

Lirimaer · Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:24 pm

Allafyrefleorhtlig wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:03 pm @Lailyn and @Lirimaer - I found some SCRs lurking on my photobucket. I have no idea if these actually went live when I was ruler, but they may have done.

- Brego
- Hama

- Lothiriel 1
- Lothiriel 2
- Freda 2
- Elfwine

Theodred alive 1
- Theodred Alive 2
- Snowmane

Also, see this thread for ruler icons:- viewtopic.php?f=5&t=273

Lirimaer · Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:39 pm

Updated OP.

Lirimaer · Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:32 pm

ATR thread - seems to imply Daeron is Daeron ... IF that looks in any way like Patrick Stewart. It doesn't to me, but ...

Saw @Ult with a Narya icon too, obviously blank.

Lirimaer · Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:47 pm

Very helpful thread.

SCR

Missing:
R- Eorl, Eothain,
G - Finduilas
KD - Narvi
I - Maglor

Found - a Beechbone with a grey border. 2010 - is this regions?

ATR thread another thread and another and another

Pretty Boys' No 1 Fan ... I am ashamed to say I did not keep this

Lirimaer · Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:10 am

SCR
http://herald.istad.org/february2009.html#scr - Rivvy SCRs new in 2009 - Nimloth, Feanor, Idril, Elros and Maglor
http://herald.istad.org/july.html#rohan Feralof?

Narv · Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:49 am

Oh am I missing? Pretty sure I was just the Bombur on the top right of your KD table

Narv · Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:50 am

or wait did you mean Narvi like the actual Narvi from lord of the rings

Uruva · Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:34 am

I appreciate that Alla specified in her naming conventions that this SCR was an alive version of Theodred.

Lirimaer · Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:09 am

Yes, apparently 'Narvi of Moria' was an SCR, once upon a time. Someone may return someday with a photobucket full. *lives in hope*

Apparently we needed specificity!

Region · Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:56 pm

Hi @Lirimaer good to see you again! Love the project, seeing all the icons brings back memories.

I just had a first pass at some icons on an old drive, will look later on but here are some missing ones.

Edit: fixed the links

Winddancer · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:02 pm

I dont see your piccies @Region! Did you upload them to a host first??

Lirimaer · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:03 pm

Oh oh oh! I LOVE you ... but what Winddy said - I can't see them!

Region · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:03 pm

Fixed it!

Lirimaer · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:10 pm

TILION!!!

Lirimaer · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:12 pm

And is that Turin, or Thingol?

I am gonna log it as Thingol, I think.

Region · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:18 pm

Lirimaer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:12 pm And is that Turin?

Yes! I also thought it was Turin but wasn’t sure so I didn’t make any guesses. If we’re both convinced though...

Lirimaer · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:20 pm

Ooooh ... we might have to ask @Túrin - I think he had the Túrin ATR once upon a time.

Region · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:21 pm

Hmm...I think it’s Thingol. I remember the Turin one now and it looked like a younger person.

Lirimaer · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:25 pm

Okay.

Thank you so much for diving into your records!

Túrin · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:43 pm

I think that was Thingol. A circlet was probably never associated with Turin. As further evidence, it looks not-sad, Turin would probably need to look more depressed.

Though I don't recall getting the Turin Turumbar ATR at all. I know I had Eonwe once, not sure if I got another.

Ercassie · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:51 pm

Not that it definitely confirms things, one way or the other, but that icon does look something like the icon for Thingol in the Ages of Arda RPG. Has a circlet.

Lirimaer · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:53 pm

Oh really? I saw a [missing] icon named Túrin Turambar by a character called Túrin in the archives somewhere. To be fair, it might not have been you, I didn't check.

Anyway, thank you for your wisdom!

Region · Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:02 pm

@Lirimaer , @Túrin , I found the Turin image, please see below.

Lirimaer · Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:41 pm

I ALREADY TOLD YOU I LOVED YOU! (I mean, where do I go from there?) I am delighted! (And he does look depressed!

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Thank you for saving these, past!Reeg.

Túrin · Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:10 pm

Lirimaer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:53 pm Oh really? I saw a [missing] icon named Túrin Turambar by a character called Túrin in the archives somewhere. To be fair, it might not have been you, I didn't check.

To be sure: Me not remembering =/= it didn't happen. In addition to just forgetting things, I've killed off plenty of brain cells over the years!

Lirimaer · Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:18 pm

Fair enough. We've all got great forgetteries, these days.

Lirimaer · Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:03 am

CoLP ATRs Eriol and Eärwen, the Sea Maiden mentioned here

Lirimaer · Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:41 am

Private party for me - Helm and Maglor ATRs with a list of recipients.

SCR recipients (no pics, unfortunately)

Also she I called Gilraen is called Idril Celebrindal in these archives.

Lirimaer · Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 pm

@Li. Heya, your Uinen ... was she by any chance Earwen the sea maiden for CoLP?

Li. · Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:21 am

Heya, to the best of my knowledge she wasn't used as such. I don't remember modifying the icon to serve a Maia function, but that's not to say it didn't happen.

Sorry for being a total derth of help!

Lirimaer · Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:15 am

No I don't mean used as a Maia icon - I mean used by CoLP as a tribute rank. But if you don't know, I guess you don't know.

Don't worry.

Lail · Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:47 pm

So I have no idea what this icon was as it doesn't have SCR/ATR so maybe it was actually a ruler/mayor? Though I seem to recall someone wearing it as a joke...hoping someone can help me out here.

Lirimaer · Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:58 pm

It was one of the Halloween/April Fool icons one year. We do need a separate thread for holiday icons ... *nudges*

Dimcairien Luiniel · Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:18 am

I know I've seen quite a few Halloween icons on my adventures through the Wayback. I'll start saving them to a folder on my computer and we can figure out who wants to take over Halloween.

I also just found this version of Elladan, Son of Elrond

Lirimaer · Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:32 am

He's up there in the op - one of the region SCRs.