Riddles in the Dark

[Chrysophylax Dives]

yeah, i was toying with Merry. Had the thought that the Brandy might = symbolic red patch.

What kills me on this riddle is the 'first of the first' and 'last of the last' bit.

Ramadan kareem, my friend.

[Drífa]

Nope, no correct answers. You are on the right track.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Drifa, we are discussing your impossible riddle in the Blue Wizard Treehouse. Some of us (me) suspect a mushroom.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

This person is not a creature. This person is not an only child. This person is not from the Years of the Trees, First Age or Second Age. This person has two names.

I hope this is less confusing. If I give a broader hint on the last clue, I may as well tell you the answer. You are all on the right track, by the Shire!!!
Now try again!

How about that broader hint?

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Is it Otto the Fat?
Or his wife Lavendar Grubb?
Or maybe Sapphira Brockhouse?
Daisy Baggins?
Or Isengar Took, who went to sea in his youth?
Gundabald Bolger?
Or Malva Headstrong?
Or perhaps Hob Gammidge the Roper, known as 'Old Gammidgy'?

[Aranadhel]

I'm guessing it's the Old Mayor!

[Drífa]

No correct answers.

It is a hobbit. That is a pretty broad hint, eh?

[Rior Laegiel]

Peregrin Took?

[Aranadhel]

Marcho or Blancho

[Chrysophylax Dives]

It cannot be Pippin because he is a youngest child, and Marcho and Blancho have only one name each.

This is no riddle, it's a tomb!

[Aranadhel]

Balin then!

PS - @Chrysophylax Dives A bit occupied today, will answer in our new subforum shortly.

[Arnyn]

Rorimac "Old Rory"/"Goldfather" Brandybuck...

[Romeran]

I think this must be the longest standing riddle

What about Tolman Cotton?

He's the eldest son of Farmer Cotton, and Tolman Gamgee is the youngest child of Sam Gamgee and Rosie Cotton (and consequently Tolman Gamgee is Tolman Cotton's nephew) with the "symbolic red patch" referring to Rose Cotton, Tolman's younger sister and the second child of Farmer Tom Cotton.

[Drífa]

Middle-earth Related

It started with a positive
outcome and an unlockable lock.
I was the first of the first to hatch,
then there was one other;
a symbolic red patch.
Long it lasted till finally, alas, I was
the last of the last.
Who am I?

No correct answers. @Romeran , Tolman had many siblings. Look at line four of the riddle.

[Drífa]

It has been over three weeks since I posted my riddle, and it looks like the thread has come to a standstill. I have broken the Riddle Game before with my puzzles, so the floor is open. Maybe the unsolved riddle can become the house riddle until it is solved.

Thanks! Carry on, peeps!

[Aikári Salmarinian]

Okay granted. Hmm...

I am still alive and well
More than forty years
Are these lands my home
I was not so very lucky
When my lands were on fire
Or that could nearly be
But I have always been loyal
To the next century begins
Nice summers we have
Moderate winters too
Except when darkness falls
If the lands across burst out
I think I have said enough
Can you guess who is me.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

It has been over three weeks since I posted my riddle, and it looks like the thread has come to a standstill. I have broken the Riddle Game before with my puzzles, so the floor is open. Maybe the unsolved riddle can become the house riddle until it is solved.

Thanks! Carry on, peeps!

Wtf? Not acceptable! Chicken shire! I want to know the answer.

In any case, this thread already has one unsolved riddle, the default house riddle; two is one too many.

[Drífa]

What is this unsolved default house riddle?

I am not sure what who is me, is, but I shall say Turgon, son of Fingolfin?

[Fuin Elda]

Found an egg

[Chrysophylax Dives]

What is this unsolved default house riddle?

The house riddle is the riddle that has been answered and yet has no answer.
O, Drifa Longbeard, heed the egg.

Found an egg

[Aikári Salmarinian]

Sorry it is not Turgon.

[Arnyn]

Sorry to interrupt the riddle guessing, but an egg was here! *grabs it and hops off*

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Aiks, my apologies for spamming your riddle with complaints about removal of the old riddle before an answer is given. As it is though, I am afraid my mind cannot cope with another riddle while still clogged with such phrases as 'unlockable lock' and 'symbolic red patch.' So I will sit this one out, and subsequent riddles, until the unlockable lock is unlocked.

PS. Drifa, just to spell it out: the default unanswered riddle of this thread - the original, at least - was asked by @Fuin Elda around page 7.

[Fuin Elda]

Yes Drifa 3 weeks 8m afraid is nothing lol

My first thought on drifas is unlockable lock may not be a Tolkien reference... In Canada and the US that is what a brand of lock calls itself... That brand being Master so that's where I will be looking for hints later when I'm not getting ready for work

[Aikári Salmarinian]

Chrys: Floor was open, so I posted a rather easy one. *g* There is no default riddle, just one I gave up on. I am not someone who keeps waiting until someone guesses eventually. If it's apparent it is not going to happen, I just post the answer and we go on. But that is just me. Drifa is another person and up to her what she likes to do with her riddle.

Someone who likes to take a guess? Who is me is a person, not a thing. Otherwise the last sentence would have been: Can you guess what I am... Good luck.

[Eldy Dunami]

Shot in the dark, but is it Orodreth, described towards the end of his time as King of Nargothrond? He lived in Nargothrond for almost forty years, from his arrival there after Minas Tirith was taken by Sauron until the destruction of Nargothrond, shortly before the end of the firth century of the First Age and beginning of the sixth. Orodreth was well aware of the dangers of darkness bursting out, and he'd lost his previous fortress of Minas Tirith shortly after the Dagor Bragollach, the Battle of Sudden Flame, which could account for the line "when my lands were on fire."

[Aikári Salmarinian]

Eldy: Precise, floor is yours!

[Drífa]

The so-called default riddle riddle was answered, Aqualonde, it just got lost in the crash. We must take the word of Fuin on it. Also, I (aka Afird Splitax) do remember answering it.

For the record @Afird Splitax did get this right though the answer was lost in the Great Crash of 2021 with Aqualonde So this is now open for them to post a riddle. (thank goodness it's not me anymore)

Getting back to my riddle, Fuin's logic on the unlockable lock is hot.

The floor is Eldy's.

[Eldy Dunami]

Thanks, Aikári! I will make an effort to have a poem up promptly, but I'd like to try to make it slightly harder to guess than my last offering.

[Romeran]

Yes Drifa 3 weeks 8m afraid is nothing lol

My first thought on drifas is unlockable lock may not be a Tolkien reference... In Canada and the US that is what a brand of lock calls itself... That brand being Master so that's where I will be looking for hints later when I'm not getting ready for work

Hmmm well Hamfast “Gaffer” Gamgee gets called “Master Hamfest” by Bilbo and he marries Bell Goodchild. But they have more than 2 children. Also there are the Masters of Buckland of which Saradoc was one of two children and was the father of Merry who becomes the Master of Buckland but I believe their (unnamed?) son becomes the last noted master of Buckland.

[Fuin Elda]

The so-called default riddle riddle was answered, Aqualonde, it just got lost in the crash. We must take the word of Fuin on it. Also, I (aka Afird Splitax) do remember answering it.

For the record @Afird Splitax did get this right though the answer was lost in the Great Crash of 2021 with Aqualonde So this is now open for them to post a riddle. (thank goodness it's not me anymore)

Getting back to my riddle, Fuin's logic on the unlockable lock is hot.

The floor is Eldy's.

Indeed it did get solved but it took almost a year to get there. Just because you gave up far faster does not mean we will! Now that I've got the unlockable lock bit cleared up a bit

[Eldy Dunami]

Well, I don't expect this to be difficult after all, but I'm about at the limit of how much I can put up with my being terrible at poetry. I doubt the subject of this riddle would be very pleased, either. It's Middle-earth related, for the record.

If I were writing this poem
None would consider it ho hum
For verse is my speciality
And skill has no egality
Ergo I enjoy such great fame
The Ages remember my name
I make as well as use letters
So search, but you'll find none better

Who am I?

[Aikári Salmarinian]

Quennar Onótimo?

[Eldy Dunami]

That is not correct.

[Fuin Elda]

Feanor?

Gods don't let me be right this thread will die for another year

[Eldy Dunami]

Not Fëanor either, but that's not a bad guess!

[Drífa]

Daeron, a minstrel who also invented the cirth runes?

[Aikári Salmarinian]

Pengolodh?

[Eldy Dunami]

@Drifa has it; the answer is Daeron. Your turn!

[Drífa]

Hm, thanks, Eldy! The seventh line gave it away!

Non-Middle-earth/Tolkien-related.

Golden Arbry and Marmalade Geroge.
Dead as doornails lay upon the boards.
Their vessel lays shattered, splintered and sharded.
Swords of emerald green lay useless, discarded.
Slippery is the deck; pooled, puddled and wet.
Oh, what is the cause of such a terrible mysterious death?

[Aranadhel]

What the heck is this?

[Drífa]

It looks like I broke the thread again. The floor is open.

[Aerlinn]

Waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit @Drifa! Can we have a hint?

[Drífa]

Hahaha, nice! Okay, here is a hint. The deceased are not pirates.

[Fuin Elda]

The Jedi.

I have absolutely no idea only people I could think of with green swords though. For the love of all that is holy don't let me be right.

[Drífa]

No, not the Jedi! Not all swords are made of metal.

[Narv]

this riddle is nuts

[Narv]

I will take this line by line

Golden Arbry and Marmalade Geroge.
- Golden Arbry is nonsense words. Arbry is a little like Arby's though, and Golden is like arches like McDo. So perhaps it's like a fast food riddle. George Michael wrote Lady Marmalade according to google. So perhaps it's a george michael fast food type riddle. marmalade is like a spread for toast, so maybe a fast food breakfast/toast george michael type riddle

Dead as doornails lay upon the boards.
I dunno. something bad has happened to the fast food george michael breakfast situation.

Their vessel lays shattered, splintered and sharded.
Some kind of glass vessel then. Marmalade comes in a jar. There's a broken jar.

Swords of emerald green lay useless, discarded.
This is pickles

Slippery is the deck; pooled, puddled and wet.
Slippery pickle juice from the jar of pickles covers the deck, glass scattered all about as the pickles wilt in the hot sun.

Oh, what is the cause of such a terrible mysterious death?

I'm gonna say George Michael is seated at a small table on his deck, in his back yard, next to his pool, engaged in a breakfast meeting with some representatives of a number of fast food concerns (McDonalds and Arby's certainly, but potentially others). He's lately become interested in adding additional franchising opportunities to his varied list of post-retirement investment pursuits. But just as talks were getting somewhere, tragedy strikes as an errant hand brushes brushes a jar of pickles and sends it hurtling down to the freshly-stained oak boards of his new deck, now stained again but this time with the slick sickly spread of pickle brine. A dozen pickles roll around pathetically for a second or two, then come to rest and lay, useless and discarded, to wither in the sun til the end of time, or until one of the cleaning staff comes to pick them up. One of the pickles floats disgustingly in the pool. There's probably glass in there now too - so much for a post-meeting swim. The Arby's rep studies his flip-flopped foot, concerned there might be a tiny piece of glass in there somewhere. The McDonald's rep is looking around cautiously for an exit opportunity, but is worried she might slip in the pickle juice that surrounds them all. George Michael is deeply ashamed. The franchising deal is dead in the water.

[Narv]

sources are informing me that george michael did not write Lady Marmalade, he just covered it one time. I'm still ~90% sure that my guess is right though

[Aikári Salmarinian]

Reading through it all keeps being unclear to me and don't understand it. Or that I see a clue. Good luck for the others to figure it out. I am not trying it.