Question: how many named-character deaths are recorded in the Quenta Silmarillion?
Answer: Is the answer ninety?
[Game] Tantalizing Trivia Quiz
The world was fair in Durin's Day.
Wow. You are scary @Drifa . Yes.
The source you link to is a paper presented by Dawn M. Walls-Thumma at the Vermont Tolkien conference in the early summer. The same paper was developed further for Oxenmoot a few weeks ago, and in this second version we have:
The source you link to is a paper presented by Dawn M. Walls-Thumma at the Vermont Tolkien conference in the early summer. The same paper was developed further for Oxenmoot a few weeks ago, and in this second version we have:
How do you do that thing of highlighting the linked text?If you've read the Quenta Silmarillion, you know that it is a fruitful orchard of death. In just over 100,000 words, eighty-eight named characters die ninety deaths—Beren and Lúthien each die twice—in addition to the uncountable thousands of unnamed characters who perish in its pages.
Eat earth. Dig deep. Drink water.
I Googled it. I wasn't about to count out names—a trick for a trick. If we ask questions outside of the sources stated in the Rules, we should at least state it. Or update the rules, eh? What do you all think? I found Dawn's article very interesting.Romeran wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:00 pmTantalizing Trivia Quiz
Welcome to our Tantalizing Trivia Quiz!
Inspired by the Basic Lore quiz thread started by halfir. The rules are set-out below and I will kick-off the Quiz with the first question.
Rules
- One person asks a question, another answers and then waits until the previous questioner verifies it. If it is correct the person who answered it may then ask a question.
- Questions should only be taken from The Hobbit, LOTR, The Silmarillion, and Unfinished Tales.
- Questions should be fun and require some effort, but essentially should be of a nature that a basic knowledge of the specified books can answer.
- Answers need not have detailed page references as to where the information can be specifically found, but both a book and chapter title reference must be provided, and the answer validated by the questioner.
N.B. Please note the first question is in the following post.
The world was fair in Durin's Day.
Having dragged the Rules to the forefront, I cannot find a short quote to answer Aik's question. But again, I have run out of time. The whistle is blowing, and I have to head to the mines.
The world was fair in Durin's Day.
My Dear Dwarf @Drifa,
May the hairs of your beard never tangle.
If you are complaining that I should have solved Aiks' question before asking my own, I can only plead guitly. But if you are suggesting that the source required to answer my question falls outside those allowed, I am innocent!
It is true that I got the question from Dawn's essay. But that gave me the question, not the answer. All that is required to arrive at the answer (without googling Dawn's essay) is a knowledge that Beren and Luthien die twice.
Yours sincerely, with affection, but above all totally and completely innocent of any wrong-doing (apart from jumping my place in the queue),
Chrys. Dives
May the hairs of your beard never tangle.
If you are complaining that I should have solved Aiks' question before asking my own, I can only plead guitly. But if you are suggesting that the source required to answer my question falls outside those allowed, I am innocent!
It is true that I got the question from Dawn's essay. But that gave me the question, not the answer. All that is required to arrive at the answer (without googling Dawn's essay) is a knowledge that Beren and Luthien die twice.
Yours sincerely, with affection, but above all totally and completely innocent of any wrong-doing (apart from jumping my place in the queue),
Chrys. Dives
Eat earth. Dig deep. Drink water.
You are innocent. I am in the wrong. I forgot and didn't even read the rules that no quote is needed. I should have had the source as The Silmarillion. *bows low* My apologies.
About Aik's question.
Question: What is the place in the Ered Nimrais, where a group of people leave the innerbowels of the mountains and come in the sunlight again?
Answer: Is it the Hill of Erech situated at the mouth of the Blackroot Vale? TROTK, The Passing Of The Grey Company.
Try this one.
Question: How many voices said drownded?
About Aik's question.
Question: What is the place in the Ered Nimrais, where a group of people leave the innerbowels of the mountains and come in the sunlight again?
Answer: Is it the Hill of Erech situated at the mouth of the Blackroot Vale? TROTK, The Passing Of The Grey Company.
Ah, very clever.It is true that I got the question from Dawn's essay. But that gave me the question, not the answer. All that is required to arrive at the answer (without googling Dawn's essay) is a knowledge that Beren and Luthien die twice.
Question: How many voices said drownded?
The world was fair in Durin's Day.
Drifa: Ah sorry I have been busy with other matters offline, yes the answer was pretty easy not to have it wrong. You solved it together brilliantly, proficiat!
Just call me Aiks or Aikári. Notify is off.
Find me stuff in Gondolin.
And let us embark to Valinor!
Find me stuff in Gondolin.
And let us embark to Valinor!
Hmmm, it's time to get this game going again. The last question was:
Question: How many voices said drownded?
Question: How many voices said drownded?
The world was fair in Durin's Day.
Drifa: I have no idea. Two? Just a wild guess. Is it a quote or something else?
Just call me Aiks or Aikári. Notify is off.
Find me stuff in Gondolin.
And let us embark to Valinor!
Find me stuff in Gondolin.
And let us embark to Valinor!
The word "drowned" is not used in everyday speech. It is more of a slang word, and it would seem that the Hobbits use it.
No, not two. Go to the books, Aiks!
No, not two. Go to the books, Aiks!
The world was fair in Durin's Day.
Drifa: Perhaps, drowned is as much dying under water. Drownded might be a spelling mistake, or an old word no longer in use in Britain? Let's see who says it all: Sam, Gaffer... might be Noakes, the Miller? I have copied the texts where the word appears.
'You're right, Dad!' said the Gaffer. 'Not that the Brandybucks of Buck-land live _in_ the Old Forest; but they're a queer breed, seemingly. They fool about with boats on that big river – and that isn't natural. Small wonder that trouble came of it, I say. But be that as it may, Mr. Frodo is as nice a young hobbit as you could wish to meet. Very much like Mr. Bilbo, and in more than looks. After all his father was a Baggins. A decent respectable hobbit was Mr. Drogo Baggins; there was never much to tell of him, till he was drownded.'
'Drownded?' said several voices. They had heard this and other darker rumours before, of course; but hobbits have a passion for family history, and they were ready to hear it again. 'Well, so they say,' said the Gaffer. 'You see: Mr. Drogo, he married poor Miss Primula Brandybuck. She was our Mr. Bilbo's first cousin on the mother's side (her mother being the youngest of the Old Took's daughters); and Mr. Drogo was his second cousin. So Mr. Frodo is his first _and_ second cousin, once removed either way, as the saying is, if you follow me. And Mr. Drogo was staying at Brandy Hall with his father-in-law, old Master Gorbadoc, as he often did after his marriage (him being partial to his vittles, and old Gorbadoc keeping a mighty generous table); and he went out _boating_on the Brandywine River; and he and his wife were drownded, and poor Mr. Frodo only a child and all. '
`Save me, Mr. Frodo! ' gasped Sam. `I'm drownded. I can't see your hand.'
Just call me Aiks or Aikári. Notify is off.
Find me stuff in Gondolin.
And let us embark to Valinor!
Find me stuff in Gondolin.
And let us embark to Valinor!
Question: How many voices said drowned?
Answer: Several voices.
It looks like you got more than several, Aiks!
You are correct! The next question is yours.
Answer: Several voices.
It looks like you got more than several, Aiks!
The world was fair in Durin's Day.