Who, What, or Where, (In The Name of Arda) Am I?

[Arothir]

Are you a ruler?

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Yes, I am a ruler.

[Arothir]

Are you a king?

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Yes, I am a king.

(I sense a closing in on the answer.)

[Arothir]

Are you alive during The Return of the King?

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Yes; well, for most of it.

[Arothir]

Got it narrowed down to two, then.

Are you Theoden?

[Chrysophylax Dives]

No, I am not Theoden.

[Arothir]

Then are you King Brand of Dale?

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Yes!

I am King Brand of Dale.

[Arothir]

Very well!

What am I?

[Drífa]

Are you alive?

[Arothir]

I am not

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Are you made of stone?

[Drífa]

Are you a weapon?

[Arothir]

I am not made of stone.
I am a weapon.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Are you an Elf-made weapon?

[Arothir]

It is not specifically stated, but I would say that the probability is near 100% certain that I am.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Hmmmmm.

Are you used in the Third Age?

[Drífa]

Are you adorned with anything (gems, runes, etc.)?

[Arothir]

I am not used in the Third Age.
I am not described with any adornments.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Are you a sword?

[Arothir]

I am a sword.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Alright, time for a concrete guess.

Are you Dagmor, the sword of Beren?

[Drífa]

Are you Ringil, the sword of Fingolfin?

[Arothir]

I am indeed Ringil!

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Yeah, I would also guess that Ringil is Elvish made.

Well done, Dwarf!

[Drífa]

Yippee! I mean, thank you. Dagmor is an obscure word in the histories. Only mentioned twice, I believe. It would have been a good subject for a riddle.

Where am I?

[Chrysophylax Dives]

How do you know something as obscure as the number of mentions of Dagmor? Your knowledge is astonishing.

Anyway, are you on Valinor or Tol Eressëa?

[Drífa]

Do you ever read the Index? I do. In my copy, it states:

Dagmor, Beren's sword page 344, 350
512 Dagmor. Beren's sword is named nowwhere else. The Lays of Beleriand, HoME vol.3, The Lay of Leithian Recommenced

I was on the dwarven drill team in the Old Plaza Hay Days for several years. At that time, I purchased all twelve volumes of The History of Middle-earth, The Silmarillion, and The Unfinished Tales. My collection has grown since then. This box of books always sits on my dining room table.


Okay, back to the game.

No, I am not on Valinor or Tol Eressëa. Would you consider that two guesses in one?

[Chrysophylax Dives]

You are the only person I ever knew who reads the index! Tolkien would have embraced you, of that I am certain. A reader after his own heart. Incidentally, I've been looking at the appendices of LotR and have been struck by the different style of the first edition to what we know from the second. If I had more energy I would make a Lore post about it.

Technically I deem that one guess because it was a way of asking 'are you in Middle-earth?'

Anyway, the current question: are you underground?

[Arothir]

Are you above water in the Third Age?

[Drífa]

I am not underground.
I am not above water in the Third Age.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Are you above water in the First Age?

(You know, btw, that some of Beleriand survived above water.)

[Arothir]

Are you a tower?

[Drífa]

Are you above water in the First Age?

(You know, btw, that some of Beleriand survived above water.)

More riddle material.

I am above water in the First Age.
I am not a tower.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

I guessed Númenor and then deleted because that was not above water in the First Age because it did not then exist.

Hmmmm. Let's get clear on the basics.

Are you one of those bits of land that gets smashed up in the Great Battle at the end of the First Age?

[Arothir]

Were you a spot ruled by the Noldor?

[Aikári Salmarinian]

Are you a piece of land where the elves of Lord Cirdan live in the First Age?

[Drífa]

No, not that I have read.
As far as I have read, I am not a spot ruled by the Noldor.
No, I am not a piece of land where the elves of Lord Cirdan lived.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

I am getting confused. Let's step back to: "I am not above water in the Third Age."

Are you under water in the Third Age?

[Arothir]

Were you ruled by Melkor or a lieutenant of his?

[Drífa]

Where am I?
Anyway, are you on Valinor or Tol Eressëa?
No, I am not on Valinor or Tol Eressëa. Would you consider that two guesses in one?
Anyway, the current question: are you underground?
Are you above water in the Third Age?
I am not underground.
I am not above water in the Third Age.
Are you above water in the First Age?
Are you a tower?
I am above water in the First Age.
I am not a tower.
Are you one of those bits of land that gets smashed up in the Great Battle at the end of the First Age?
Were you a spot ruled by the Noldor?
Are you a piece of land where the elves of Lord Cirdan live in the First Age?
No, not that I have read.
As far as I have read, I am not a spot ruled by the Noldor.
No, I am not a piece of land where the elves of Lord Cirdan lived.

I guessed Númenor and then deleted because that was not above water in the First Age because it did not then exist.

Hmmmm. Let's get clear on the basics.

Are you one of those bits of land that gets smashed up in the Great Battle at the end of the First Age?

No, not that I have read.
As far as I have read, I am not a spot ruled by the Noldor.
No, I am not a piece of land where the elves of Lord Cirdan lived.

I have never read that I was one of those bits of land that got smashed up in the Great Battle at the end of the First Age.

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I am not above water in the Third Age.
I have never read that Melkor or one of his lieutenants ruled me, but they may have.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Are you a lake or a river?

[Arothir]

Are you a mountain?

[Drífa]

I am not a lake or a river.
Er... no, I am not a mountain.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

Alright, are you the sea?

[Drífa]

No, I am not the sea.

[Chrysophylax Dives]

The river bed where the Ring was?

[Arothir]

Are you cold?